Interviews with Bernard Poolman
16 Dec 09
Ok so let’s look at the situation around energy. What has caused our problem within the context of our existence? In the very beginning, we emerged from the physical universe. From that which was, call it ‘manifest’ – that which was here. So the physical universe. In our emergence from it, we were in a way like an energetic implulse that came from it. So in the beginning, they will explain to you, for instance if you look at and you study the races that is here in the universe – how everyone emerged from the planets. And then when you died, you returned to the planet. For instance, when we found Anu – well, all the beings in heaven – we started going back: we were looking at the forefathers of Anu. We found them in the planets. They existed as an imprint, as the history of the movement of the energetics. Because energy always changes form but it’s always the same energy. So, dimensionally, it will have a different imprint. When you for instance now eat food, the food that you’re eating is coming, say, from the plant, but that plant has derived its energy from the shit that was placed back into the earth, and thus it’s the same energy –it’s just another dimension of it. Which is how your multidimensionality operates in a physical way. So if you really go back at any singular point in the physical reality, you will be able to find all its dimensions –that means that which it has existed as before– which is your quantum reality as you experience it as a physical reality and as you assess how it has progressed through what you call time –but it was simply its functionality within a sequencial process of eternal existence, where it simply changes form from energy to energy. Which means it changes substance, it changes its nature from one form to another form. But you can go back within that and actually trace back its origin. That means: Where does it come from and how did it move –which is similar to past lives and one’s existence throughout time. This ‘time’ though is not really measured as anything else than the sequencial change/transformation of the energy (energy=that which was its substance). Within that we became aware. We became an energy of the energy. In that awareness we created a mind. That mind was basically our attempt to understand our existence within this emergence from what is here. Everything was always fine because, from a certain perspective, if you have managed, or, directed it within the interest of all, there was no conflict, there was no friction necessary, because the energy was simplistically transforming within the relationships that was existent. The relationships that was existent was within its definition of and as the form it has, that is then taken apart and it releases energy – which is fusion, for instance, or combustion for instance. We all existed within a reality that you could call quanta, a quantum reality, where everything in a way was immediate, yet we would experience ourselves within the sequence of our expression. Within that emerged a process of abuse. A process of, where some noticed that they could form a point of view about something and that their point of view, which you could call an opinion, was worth more than another’s point of view. Within that point of view, a friction developed between two points of view. The friction between those two points of view, which are now a manifestation of another dimension of the same energy where it comes from, which has become individualized and separate from the total movement of the physical energy within which all existed. Within that contextual relationship that was created, a friction developed between those two points of view / opinions. That friction created (energy) or allowed energy to emerge that was seperate, that could be directed as individualized energy –which you can call THOUGHT today. Within that we created our ILLUSION. Once we started taking that thought -that seperated changed perceptual energy which was not seen, which was not returning to its source– we started to create illusions. And we started to trap that energy which is real into an illusion and we slowly consumed the universe. Throughout billions of years, as you now call it, we have consumed the whole universe like that. A solution had to be found. Because of the very nature of the energy, that was created as a mental energy, as an energy of individualized delusion. Implied within that, equal and one, was a limitation to a single point, which made possible the manifestation of the individual form within the context of the triangle. Because that emergence of an opinion, of a point of view about something, in conflict with the point of view of another point: created a triangle. Two points in conflict created a point of combustion, a point of friction which created energy. Another level of energy. That energy is the energy we today live as personality. That made it possible obviously for the automatic emergence of what you would call 3-dimensions. Because that’s how we created 3-dimensions as a system. The fact that that was a delusion didn’t matter. Because within that we became that separated opinion, that idea of ourselves. When we became that idea of ourselves, we created what you have today. Entities, beings, even in the physical, that exist NOT AS the physical. You are existing as the mental projection of your physical self. So, you became a digital self. A self contained within opinion, digits, symbols. Which is not physical. Because remember, if we go back to the story of Anu and them, they took symbols from the planet –they took pieces of the planet and made symbols of it- which is then made to an opinion –they created an idea. Then the idea became important and your opinion about the idea became your mental projection, your delusion, your illusion = what you believe yourself to be, which then I would call a personality. This personality will fight for its existence by having a point of view, which is in conflict with another point of view. The friction between those two has created ‘the System’ as it exists today. According to that we then made rules for the system, which is the laws and the moralitites and the beliefs that exist today –which we then adhere to, we have taken that and put it back into symbols, which is Writing, made it our laws, and we have bound ourselves to that. For that reason something had to be created, a vacuum. Which is earth. The utmost fear. Did fear ever existed from a perspective as we have it today before we created the Mind? No. Fear did not exist as that. Fear started existing, as it exists today, the moment we started to fear losing our point of view, which we believed to be ourselves but which was not really real! So you inevitably would lose that point of view because it isn’t who you are. But the moment you believe that is all who you are, then obviously the moment the point of view no longer exists, YOU also no longer exist. Which is how we created our own end, which we are now currently living out. We are now reaching the end of time, which means we are reaching the point where we can no longer generate this sustainable, this idea of our self sustainably, because we have created, virtually, in every possible way, a form of conflict, where we cannot trust each other but we live in fear of each other. So we have become simply mental projections, contained within the physical, which suck the physical dry until it dies, and then the mental projection that remains is what you end up in the afterlife as. In that you are basically absolutely powerless. So unless you actually deliberately in the afterlife give up your existence -within the understanding that you’ve become virtually an illusionary energy- you let it go. That means you give back what you’ve allowed you to become to its source, which is the physical. So that you become in that the physical. You are pretty much screwed for eternity. Which is pretty cool from a certain perspective because you now have no impact whatsoever on reality. You are simply non-existent. From the perspective – now imagine, the problem that emerges from all of this: the mental projection that you have become as personality has then created from it(self) entities, which is the systems. These systems have become alive in a way because, you know, you have changed its energy from the perspective of, or, it is projections of energy, it is like a wave of, it’s an outflow of, it’s a mirror effect of, -of the original energy. It’s not the original energy. It is like having a picture taken of it and believing the picture to be real. That’s how the mind system operates. Now imagine these things existed before earth existed, a long time before it. Earth is just a manifestation, where all of these points have been brought together so it can be seen to understand how we’ve created this reality, how we’ve created ourselves in essence. So therefore, earth had to be manifested as a singular point, which was: everyone had to be brought together here, to get stuck in the actual manifested illusion, which was sound, which is what earth is: Earth is sound, and within sound, which contains all possible expressions, it’s possible to actually manifest the illusion and live it as if it is real, so that you can learn what is the consequence of your creation. So, let’s look at it again. What is our problem? Our problem is our perceptual ideas of the energy that flows from the friction that is existent between ourselves as separate personalities. Within that we create an idea of what life is and we manage it through systems called laws and morality and belief. Within that we then create a digital world, which is existent in the mental, while we disregard what is real in the physical. And we have thus no value we give to the physical, but yet we fear to lose our mental self. That mentality has created the world the way it is today. That is our problem. That is the point that must be stopped. Not the physical. The physical reality is pretty cool. Our mental reality is pretty fucked up. Now imagine, the consequencial outflow of you when you die as a mental self is that you no longer exist, from the physical reality’s point of view, and you become nothing more than a thought, the outflow of what you have become. And then you become a thought of a thought. And a thought of a thought of a thought. The average human being today exists as less than their own thoughts. That’s why their thoughts have the power inside their self -inside the mind- to question them. So if you have a conversation with yourself in your mind, where your thoughts have the capacity to reduce you to a physical experience of fear or anxiety or feeling less than –then you are less than your thoughts. Pretty screwed up, delusional existence, that is now placed within a fascinating context: That apparently you have a choice to be like this. The choice to be like this is existent within the mental projection of yourself within which you have a holographic experience of super-hero, for instance, where you are super man within your own mental projected self. Where you can do anything, because it does not impact the physical. Common sense is existent within the physical, that which is commonly sensed between all physical (parts) to support itself. Now imagine that our very nature in this world –the way nature operates- is a manifestation of our digital self, our mental projected self. And we have lost contact completely with the physical. Which is why, slowly but surely, most of the physical that was here is busy dying, is becoming extinct. Just as we are becoming extinct. We are becoming extinct as a real being, and in that we become only at the end: a thought, a projected digital self, which has no existence in reality whatsoever. And then we are screwed. And you can’t trust any of that because –can you trust your mind? You can’t trust your mind. Because your mind will form opinions and will be impacted by a singular energy source. So if you are two beings communicating: you are at high alert, the other one is at high alert, you’re throwing opinions at each other and out of that try and form an alliance or you create a war -of mind. And accordingly you’ll manifest your experience. And the being can say one word or move in one way, and you’ll immediately go: “Oh! What are they really saying? Are they mocking me? Oh, they are trying to convince me here. I will not agree.” Multiple ways you’re using your projections, but none of it is real, because it’s not real in the physical, it’s not within the context of what’s HERE. But what has happened is: you’ve taken the physical energy and you’ve transformed it into a projection of itself which is now a projected energy, and you have become this projected energy, which is basically like just a reflection of light. Not real. It’s not the light, it’s a reflection of the light. It’s the beam that’s out there. It’s not the actual light. And you believe that beam is you and you’re trying to get back to the actual light –which is impossible. Because it’s streaming forth. You can’t get back. You have to stop. And then you have to ammalgamate with what is HERE to really be able to end your illusion. What is more fascinating is that, within the context of your self-creation you have de-valued life to such a degree, that, have a look: you do not give a shit about anyone in existence and what they’re really experiencing at the physical level –that which is real, which is the physical. Therefore, by that very fact, you have given permission for your deletion, for your non-existence. Because you disregard everything else as non-existing. And in that single act, you have given permission for your end. Which is accordingly emerging now. Got it? Any questions? Clear? Thanks.